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Oovis
@oovis
08 Apr 2015 20:36:44
7 posts
Hi, Tim.
I have uploaded several images to a Mevagissey gallery and wish to put titles, comments and other details on each. Every time I finish inputting the data for one image I'm taken back to the Mevagissey Images page. This means I have to keep clicking my name then Gallery and select the settings icon to get back to the page I was just working on.
Can the site keep me on the gallery settings page until I decide I've finished? It's annoying...
updated by @oovis: 09 Apr 2015 08:30:00
Oovis
@oovis
08 Apr 2015 20:41:05
7 posts
Ah, I've seen another settings ison but it was hidden under the darn facebook/twitter/email thingy that keeps annoying me on the side of the screen. I still want to stay on the details page, though, and not keep hitting the icon...
iamtimbo
@iamtimbo
09 Apr 2015 08:29:04
63 posts
We do have a fundamental issue, I think, with the image upload system, which I now believe needs to be altered. There is (was) a reason for tthe galleries functioning the way they do, but we may be able find a different answer to the same problem.
The issue is that from a user perspective, images need to 'belong' to two profiles - firstly, the place that they relate to, and secondly the person that owns them. That's important, so that the user feels that they retain 'ownership' of the images.
The side-effect of that is that casual browsers can come across the images out of context (ie not having come from the 'Casterbridge' page), and I felt that there needed to be a link to the image's place page. That's why at the bottom of each image detail page you get the 'This image was originally posted to the galleries for 'Casterbridge' link. Behind the scenes, 'Casterbridge' can only be generated via the process of clicking 'Add to the Casterbridge galleries', and it's built in that when you've finished editing images, it takes you back to the Casterbridge page.
There are downsides to this system, as you've identified. These are that:

every time you edit any picture, OTS takes you back to the place they came from - this discourages editing
it adds extra clicks to the image upload process, and any extra clicks are probably not a good thing

Not using this system is the obvious answer. We do not want to discourage editing - indeed we want to encourage as much addiotnal information on each image. In this version, all images would be added through your own Gallery on your own profile page.
There is one huge caveat, though - not using this system relies on users adding the location of the picture via the GoogleMaps plugin. If they do not, then the image is not associated with a place, and it will not appear on the place profile.
I think that we have to bite the bullet and accept that a street-level image archive like the one we are trying to create is going to need people to use the maps plugin. It's about as user friendly as it's likely to get - although we can definitely improve the labelling and help text. We could also make a short video that guides people throgh the process.
I will work on a system that will suggest the most likely relevant 'place' profile(s) for an image, based on its GoogleMaps location, to appear at the end of the image detail page.
Using the 'old' system for now won't matter - just remember to add the location for each image. I can probably change systems tomorrrow (Friday).
iamtimbo
@iamtimbo
09 Apr 2015 08:40:35
63 posts
I've ditched the Facebook/Twitter sharing buttons on the right hand side, for now. I'll look at adding inline buttons where necessary, although as it will be a members-only site,money a limited amount of content will be shareable anyway.....
iamtimbo
@iamtimbo
09 Apr 2015 18:12:56
63 posts
UPDATE: Halfway there, I think. When looking at an image detail page, after the map that shows where the image was taken, you'll now see a list of the closest places to the image, which when clicked upon will take you to that place....
Noswar
@noswar
25 Sep 2017 22:09:39
5 posts
For an unknown reason pictures I have uploaded are duplicated and I can not delete  any pictures or rearrange them into the correct order. To begin with it was too easy to delete pictures and now it seems impossible. Uploaded pictures into a "gallery group" do not upload in the correct order that that they were on my PC. Once pictures are uploaded I can't see where to add a description for the group folder like you can with individually uploaded pictures. This is a very frustrating site
admin
@admin
25 Sep 2017 23:32:00
27 posts
Hi, @noswar, I'll have a look at what occurs when images are uploaded that might make them duplicate - I've not experienced that in over 400 uploads. You're right, though - it could be easier to update the 'whole gallery' description. I'll get that sorted out. 
As regards the ordering, I will investigate that, too. They should order by the original filename - e.g. Img001.jpg, img002.jpg etc. etc. I'll get back to you....
admin
@admin
14 Oct 2017 11:21:27
27 posts
Hi, there! 
Right - I've had a major play about with the galleries layout. If you visit a gallery you have uploaded, you will now see all the images in that gallery laid out in a grid: 

You can use the number buttons to change how the photos re laid out on the page. If you are using a PC/laptop, you can drag the images with the mouse around into the order you want them in. 
Clicking the pen icon in the top right will take you to the gallery edit page, where you can add/delete photos from the gallery, or edit the details of the picture, cinluding all the descriptions, tags and map locations:

I hope this starts to make things a bit easier!