Wimborne Minster, Dorset, England, BH21 1

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Wimborne Minster (often referred to as Wimborne) is a market town in the East Dorset district of Dorset in South West England, and the name of the Church of England church in that town. The town has a population of 15,174 (according to the 2011 Census) and is situated at the confluence of the River Stour and River Allen, five miles north of Poole, on the Dorset Heaths.

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Digging into the Newman's Drapers photograph...but what happened to them?

iamtimbo
@iamtimbo
05 Apr 2020 22:42:58
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Around 4 years ago, I posted a photo of Newman’s drapers shop on the High Street:

I’m always fascinated by the people in old photos, and the stories behind them, so I thought I’d do some digging, and see if I could find out who they were. It turned out to be surprisingly easy to track down the owner of the shop from census records, and then piece together the background story.
Frederick John Newman was born in Steyning, Sussex in 1857, the son of Richard Newman, the landlord of the Chequer Inn on the High Street, and Mary, his wife. The Chequer Inn has been in existence since the 15th Century, and by the time Frederick was 13, his father had done well enough out of it to retire.
Frederick was still a scholar then, but by 1881 he was living in Littlehampton, working for his brother, William, who was a draper by trade, and who had a shop on the High Street. His brother (14 years Frederick’s senior) had clearly made a success of himself as he had 10 employees – plus his wife, four children and a cook and a servant  - living with him at his shop on the High Street.
Fast forward 10 years to 1891 and Frederick now has his own shop in Wimborne Minster’s High Street. Like his brother, he has a sizeable staff in residence with him and his young family – 11 in total. He has a young son at this time – 6 year-old Percy – who will one day work in his father’s shop.
The 1891 census tells us that Percy was born in Wimborne in 1885 – suggesting that Frederick and his wife Emma Louisa (originally from Brighton) had been in Wimborne since at least 1885.
By 1901, Frederick and family had moved out of the shop to their own house – ‘The Leaze’ at 23  Julian’s Road. The photograph outside the shop isn’t dated, but it would appear that Percy is in his late teens, suggesting it was taken in the early 1900s. Rolls of material are piled up outside, and the signage announces them as ‘silk mercer’ and ‘hosier’, and the agents of Pullars cleaners and dyers.
The family were still living in Julian’s Road in 1911, and by 1915 the business was described as a ‘drapers and undertakers’ in Kelly’s Directory:

But that’s where the trail goes cold. Documents after that date are hard to come by, and the 1922 census hasn’t been released yet.
When I was growing up in Wimborne, the building was always McIlroys, but I don't know at what stage it stopped being Frederick/Percy Newman's shop; if you do know anything, feel free to offer it below!
iamtimbo
@iamtimbo
06 Apr 2020 22:11:15
63 posts
As mentioned on the original image post, this picture also shows the Newmans' shop:
David Atkinson
@david-atkinson
07 Apr 2020 13:56:40
8 posts
I found that Percy was baptised at Wimborne Minster on 1 October 1884, making him a bit older than you suggest.  He appears in voters lists up until 1920, with his address given as St John's Hill or Retreat Road (off St John's Hill).  I couldn't find anything very definite in the 1939 register.  The nearest is a Percy R. Newman in Tuckton, Bournemouth.  His date of birth is 4 Sept 1884, which makes him about the right age, but he describes himself as an Estate Manager.
Meanwhile, the shop is still listed as Newman and Son, Drapers and Undertakers in the 1927 Kelly's Directory.
iamtimbo
@iamtimbo
07 Apr 2020 18:06:31
63 posts
Interesting that the shop was still going in 1927 - you must have a posher Ancestry subscription than me! I got Percy's age from the 1911 census, so was guessing a tiny bit. I wondered if they might have gone back to Littlehampton or Steyning - or even Brighton, where Emma was from. 
updated by @iamtimbo: 07 Apr 2020 18:08:06
David Atkinson
@david-atkinson
07 Apr 2020 20:17:43
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I think we've probably got the same subscription, but we think Ancestry might be struggling at times with increased traffic. When I looked again today for the stuff I got last night,it wasn't there!
iamtimbo
@iamtimbo
09 Apr 2020 00:13:24
63 posts
It does seem to be a bit hit and miss sometimes - especially when you want to go back to something you know you've seen!